Big bans

Firstarter
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Big bans

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Whats going on this season??
Some lengthy bans being handed down....
Is it getting worse or are the Refs and powers that be cracking down on whats always been there?
Either way, Windsor without 2 main players for 6 - 8 weeks with a third in the breach and Eastern Elite losing a player for 6 MONTHS is painting a picture... fair or not?
Ross30
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Re: Big bans

Post by Ross30 »

There have been some fairly serious disciplinary incidents this year, and in one particular week we had 15 red cards across the CSL, which must be a record. But a significant factor in relation to the penalties handed down has been that many matters have been referred to the FFSA Disciplinary Tribunal. Once that happens, there is usually a risk of lengthier suspensions being handed down. Likewise, incidents which may once have received a one game suspension are suddenly attracting a two game suspension due to the application of FFSA's guidelines.

I won't say anymore as I don't want to jinx things, but the odd week without a referee report to consider would be very welcome!
divineponytail
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Re: Big bans

Post by divineponytail »

Recent Windsor v Rostrevor match was where the large bans came from.

A Windsor player was dropped behind play or 'tripped' according to Rostrevor witnesses to which the offender received a red card and three match ban. A melee followed to which a further two red cards shown to Windsor players.

Rostrevor however, were not happy with the standard red cards being shown to two players and proceeded to prepare a number of witness statements, strategically manipulated photo evidence and video footage for review by the tribunal. The result of the evidence included an additional ban for a player not even on the end of a red card plus lengthy bans for two Windsor players.

Rostrevor took Windsor to the cleaners because, well, that's what Rostrevor do. They can't beat Windsor on the park so will conjure up all their effort to make them pay for it off the park. Last year's quarter final reply loss with the A's still must play on their minds, they had 180 minutes to beat Windsor and failed . Last year they tried to get Windsor to forfeit the match because of someone not appearing on the team sheet, this year they prepare bias evidence for further sanctions and next year they'll think of something else.

Maybe it was because their 3's coach is also president of the CSL. It has all the ingredients for a successful derailing of Windsor's league campaign. Irony, convenience and conflict of interest all mixed together.
SafeHands
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Re: Big bans

Post by SafeHands »

Obviously still playing on you mind chief, otherwise I'm not sure why you would bring up the results of a competition that you LOST? Guess you need to hang your hat on quarter final wins from years gone by, can't be all that satisfying flogging Div 3 teams week in week out
Ross30
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Re: Big bans

Post by Ross30 »

Divineponytail is not reflecting well upon Windsor by making that comment.

Yes the coach of Rostrevor div 3 is also the Chairman of the CSL. And another CSL Executive Committee member was playing in the game for Rostrevor. There are too few people who are willing to help administer clubs and associations, or to coach teams, so it is unavoidable that organisers of the CSL will also be playing for and/or coaching teams within the CSL.

To avoid any perceived conflicts of interest, the matter was referred to FFSA, rather than the CSL Disciplinary Tribunal.

I've seen the video footage. There well may have been other things which the video footage doesn't show, but the incidents did look serious and whether it went to the CSL Disciplinary Tribunal or FFSA, the players in question were all going to receive considerably more than a one or two week suspension.

There is no conspiracy against Windsor and the Rostrevor representatives on the CSL Executive Committee have not acted improperly in any way. The Chairman of the CSL does an excellent job and is fair to all teams.
Firstarter
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Re: Big bans

Post by Firstarter »

Agreed... And on top of that, I don't think any member of the committee is part of any disciplinary session if they have a conflict of interest so that deflates that balloon.
CSL committee do an exceptional job of keeping our football as non bureaucratic as possible and be careful what you wish for!! As volunteers at clubs, we don't know how easy we have it and the handful of idiots who pretend to play soccer but are perennial idiots, thugs or both make everyone's day and life that much harder.
Maybe certain players need to have historical data taken into account also at these events and the bans could end up being longer?
Regardless, anyone who is proven to have 'hit' someone should have the book thrown at them... getting too common an occurrence these days and the tribunal (CSL or FFSA) will only provide these bans if the evidence is there...

DPT's comments don't do WG's cause any good and are not (I hope) a reflection of the many good guys at that club
divineponytail
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Re: Big bans

Post by divineponytail »

Safe hands. Windsor have played where the league have put them each year.

You all did a good job of "throwing the book" at Windsor. You should feel proud of your achievement off the park.
acmilan
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Re: Big bans

Post by acmilan »

divineponytail wrote:Safe hands. Windsor have played where the league have put them each year.

You all did a good job of "throwing the book" at Windsor. You should feel proud of your achievement off the park.
So you condone the actions of your players?
chelsea
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Re: Big bans

Post by chelsea »

Firstarter wrote:Whats going on this season??
Some lengthy bans being handed down....
Is it getting worse or are the Refs and powers that be cracking down on whats always been there?
Either way, Windsor without 2 main players for 6 - 8 weeks with a third in the breach and Eastern Elite losing a player for 6 MONTHS is painting a picture... fair or not?
The big ban was for Eastern Elite player - 26 weeks.

The 4 players involved in Rost v Windsor didnt even get that combined.

Fair or not? - Depends who you ask. Some will say the bans should of been higher while others will say they should of been lower.
divineponytail
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Re: Big bans

Post by divineponytail »

Another joke ruling by the Tribunal dealing with bias evidence that was reported by the pathetic referee who has been a problem across the league for a number of years - i'm sure if I mention who the official was for that game it would make perfect sense why a player was handed 26 weeks.

Referee said he was spat on, player said that was not the case and was made up lies. Opposition team also agreed that this didn't happen yet a ruling of 26 weeks was handed down.

What is the point of a fair hearing if what the referee said is gospel even if he is a known troublemaker?

And Chelsea, as for the Windsor game, why go to the extreme of getting a player suspended who wasn't even shown a red card in the first place ? Evidence clearly indicates the referee was in a perfect position to make a decision yet received no sanction on the day, but later receives 5 weeks ban after Rostrevor take their strategically manipulated evidence to the FFSA for further sanction.

Clearly nothing better to do.

But again, a good achievement off the pitch. Well done Rostrevor
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